I'm a size three, too. I don't have a muffin top or anything, but I still think I'm disgustingly fat.
You are beautiful just the way you are don't listen to them!(:
I would kill to be your size!!
*cough* exercising might be easier/cheaper/more legal than killing *cough*
Maybe they're teasing.
I have a friend that's like a size four in jeans. Her legs are small and tiny and toned, but she's like an XL up top because she has so much tummy (although she denies this and squeezes into smalls...) anyways, maybe you got a muffin top. I don't know, I can;t see you.
Besides, they're family.They're probably teasing. My sister calls me an ugly fagcake and a bloated hippo, but she's kidding and I don't take it to heart. :P
Haha we had a textiles teacher (heck yes for stereotypical all girls' schools) like that. Actually, come to think of it, she had a disease I think. But still, whale on the top; skeleton on the bottom. We were surprised she could even stand up.
People like that fascinate me xD I just don't understand why their body fat distributes so oddly.
Fascinate gets me picturing you studying them through a magnifying glass :P
Well I do have an artist's eye ;D
Annnd you might not get that joke....
Nah, one time I asked my friend I mentioned above if her legs had a ton of muscle. She said, "Uh, no." And kept bugging me to tell her why I asked that. I never did. I assume you can gather why I did though. I felt like a douche :'(
so WHAT IN THE WORLD DO YOU EVEN CARE?!
Your jeans could be a three (I don't know your country's sizes - what's a British 6 and 8 over there?), but maybe you've a muff-top saying differently?
You can be a small size and flabby, perhaps. Tone up.
A British 6 is an American 2 I think
Ahh, then OP is very capable of having pudge going on if she's more than a six. Size 8 allows flabby stomachs.
A 3 where? Sizes vary store to store.
We should use man measurements, they're not just arbitrary numbers. They have the around and the up-down the leg size. Like, 45-36. "3" doesn't even mean anything.
Here there is no size 3. I'm assuming it's around size 8 here though.
Where's "Here"? I'm in the American midwest and I can tell you that anything below an American 10 is skiiiiiiiiiiiinny.
Maybe their definition of "fat" differs from yours.
Or, maybe they're joking.
If YOU don't think you're fat, you're not fat. Stop caring about what other people think.
Ever thought that when they called you fat, they were referring to your appetite and not your actual size?
you're tiny, so don't listen to them, you're beautiful as you are.
Right, because you can tell she is beautiful over the internet *sarcasm*
She could have a face like a slapped haddock... ain't anything beautiful about slapped haddock.
I like to think everyone is beautiful, it makes things better to look at.
I like to think that if you don't call everyone beautiful, the notion of beautiful isn't completely tainted.
If my boyfriend calls me gorgeous, I feel special and loved. If my boyfriend called every girl gorgeous (and trust me, he really doesn't, the miserable little g*t), I'd feel just one the same as everyone else.
Some are maybe 'more beautiful' than others; we should reserve this word 'beautiful' for those people.
That's your opinion, of which you are obviously entitled to, but I am also entitled to mine, I think everyone is beautiful, in their own way, and every now and then, they need reminding of it. I felt OP needed reminding, so I did.
Fair enough; you're nice enough when we clash that I'll let you have your opinion too. Just know that 'reminding' OP when you've never seen them can often be detrimental to the whole affair.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
im a 00 a 3 is still rlly small
*I'm and really. Go buy a dictionary.
And also, was it really necessary to write your size? It kind of made you sound braggish...
Wow, you're an asshole.
Wow. Apparantly correcting somebody's grammar is the was of an asshole now. And it's true, there was no need for her to put her size was there?
i was just saying! gosh
You're perfect. Please, don't believe them.
Yes, you, from your internet somewhere miles apart from OP, is able to conclusively state they're perfect.
No one is perfect.
We all have our reasons for everything. Somehow we can all justify our actions.
Hating homophobes is just as bad as hating their opposites. Just because there is a difference in opinions doesn't mean that either party deserves to be hated upon. Personally, I don't think that its natural to like a girl if your a girl, or a boy if you're a boy. Do I deserve to be hated? No, its my opinion, and I'm entitled to it, just as any person is entitled to like whomever they want. Yet just because they don't think its right, its apparently OK to hate on homophobes but practically a crime to hate on homosexuals. We're all people here, all humans, and we all deserve to be supported in whatever stance we choose to take on the matter. At the end of the day we like who we like, sometimes dads won't like their daughter's boyfriends and sometimes people won't like their sister's girlfriend, people won't like seeing two boys walking down the street holding hands, so why is it frowned upon (though generally acceptable) to not approve of a daughter's boyfriend or a son's girlfriend but practically a crime to not like it when two girls are together or two boys are together? If you're going to hate discrimination then make it fair. Just accept that we all have our opinions.
That basically didn't make any sense, but anyway.
I myself am straight, but I think it's perfectly fine for people to be homosexuals. I mean, if you really do love someone, nothing else should matter.
Most people don't think it's acceptable if the parents don't like they're child's opposite sex partner. It isn't right either. But generally the parents won't like the partner because there's something dodgy about them, or they're rude or something. When parents don't like they're child's partner of the same sex, it's usually not for those reasons, it's because the parents are homophobes.
Also, it's really politically incorrect for you to say that whole "Yet just because they don't think its right, its apparently OK to hate on homophobes but practically a crime to hate on homosexuals" thing. No, it's not okay to hate on those people. But you shouldn't think that because someone's a homosexual they get special treatment. Most of these people go through shit for the way they are everyday. They spend a lot of their life hiding their sexuality in fear. Even when they come out, it's extremely difficult for them to deal with, and it's much more difficult when people tell them it's 'un-natural'.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say here is people don't necessarily hate on those against homosexuality. They disagree with your opinions because in our opinion, it's an unfair judgement. Please stop complaining about how people hate on those against homosexuality and trust me when I say that gay/lesbian/bi people have a lot more hate aimed at them than you.
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I don't seem to see anywhere in the post that says we have more hate aimed at us than them. The point is, if they're going to hate us for our opinions then they don't earn the right to get upset over us hating theirs. Yeah, its hard, but thats life, life is hard, it won't always be easy, and people shouldn't have to keep their feelings and opinions on the matter quiet just because there's someone struggling over it. Regardless of our orientation we are ALL entitled to voice our opinions without the fear that we are going to be hated for it. The reality is, lots of people, even straight people, hate homophobes, simply because they don't "accept" who people choose to love. A lot of people are afraid to come out because of what people will think. Regardless of what side, we all have people who are going to hate us for coming out or for disapproving of those who do. I'm just saying that, yeah, its hard for them, but did it ever occur to you that homophobes get it tough too? If gays don't deserve to be hated for what they think is right, why do homophobes deserve it? I mean, it might be wrong for homophobes to hate homosexuals because of their orientation and/or opinion. Does that make it right for homosexuals - and straight or bi people - to hate homophobes for theirs? Nope. Homophobes need to stop with the meanness. But people need to stop getting so mad at homophobes too. Just because they're straight and don't like it any other way doesn't mean they aren't people who have struggles and deserve respect too.
Sorry for calling it unnatural, if you don't like it, but like you said they shouldn't get special treatment, and I don't see why I should ignore the fact that it was Adam and Eve in the Garden, not Adam and Evan, just because they have a tough time day to day. Anyway, why do they have a tough time? Because they have haters.
Guess what homophobes have. Hm, yeah, HATERS. We all do. We all have struggles. Sometimes we just have to suck it up and understand that not everyone will agree with us but it doesn't mean that people with opposing views deserve to be hated.
I never said that anyone deserves to be hated. Not once. You don't understand what I'm trying to say. Yes you may get hate for thinking that, no it's not right. But I'm trying to make the point to you that you shouldn't complain. I'm saying that homosexuals have it harder than you, no matter what you think. And you are correct, people do deserve to voice their opinions. But when they are opinions like that, no matter which side of the argument, you have to realize you are gonna get shit back. Don't give out what you can't take back.
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First of all, you are being presumptious. Orientation isn't the only thing in this world that causes problems. You can't possibly say truthfully that homosexuals have it harder than children in poverty stricken countries, families left homeless through natural disaster, families torn apart by 9/11. Just because they have some struggles doesn't mean you KNOW for a fact that they have it harder than me, you don't KNOW that I haven't suffered natural disasters, you don't KNOW what I've gone through and only when you do can you make the assumption that they will always have it harder than me no matter what. In a world full of problems, orientation issues are a small glitch. Hard to put up with? Yeah. A struggle? Yeah. But we all have those and I don't see what right you have to put those struggles on top of the list when you have no ability to compare them to problems you don't know I have. I can take the hate. I don't understand why I should have to, nor any other homophobes.
You're being really unfair. For all you know, my life could be a complete disaster. For all you know, I could have been left parentless thanks to 9/11, I could have lost my brother to suicide, I could have suffered so much more. And without even stopping to think about that, you are automatically assuming that homosexuals will have it harder than me no matter what. Well, guess what. They get hate for their orientation just as fat people are bullied for their size, blacks are discriminated against, and so many other bullying situations. Are they automatically worse than losing innocent parents and a mentally sick brother? Why? Why is losing family for no reason so much better than people being disliked by someone of a different opinion?
And, btw, you don't know whether those things happened to me or not. The point is that they COULD have, they might have, maybe they did happen, maybe they didn't, but they could have, and your assumptions are rude and very misguided.
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Now you are being presumptuous. I didn't mean they have it harder in EVERYTHING, and you know I didn't. I was making the point that in the whole "homosexual vs homophobes" thing they have it harder. I'm sure you know perfectly well I didn't mean it in the way you just said. Your presumptions are rude and very misguided. I apologize if I offended you, but you just offended me in thinking I'd be so low too.
Ah, so you can say that they will have it harder than me no matter what I say, and yet you ACTUALLY mean that they will have it harder in this PARTICULAR situation? Right, that makes sense.
And yes, I think its low, because its not ok to hate homosexuals but absolutely fine to hate homophobes.
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I NEVER FUCKING SAID THAT I HATE HOMOPHOBES. GET IT INTO YOUR HEAD.
geez no need to swear
oh and i never said you in particular.
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You're forgetting the part where there never was a real Garden of Eden, so you have absolutely no foundation to any of your arguments.
I'm going by the bible. If it was intended that two people of the same gender should be together and that was natural, then god would have put either more than 2 people in, or he would have put two girls or two boys. Did he? No. He put a girl and a boy because that is the way it is meant to be. That is the way it once was.
I'm sorry if you don't like my choice to vouch for what appears to me as natural. But I believe that if we were meant to be together with someone of the same gender then god would have made it as such from the very start.
There's gay animals. Nuff said.
When? Can you explain when there are gay animals to me?
There's gay penguins (animals that mate for life), in a zoo. Black swans (if I remember the right animal) regularly form malexmale pairs, and only use a female to get an egg, then chase her off.
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You do realise wikipedia is the most unreliable source for information out there, right?
Actually, no it isn't. Wikipedia cites sources.
Actually, yes it is. Anyone can put up information onto wikipedia. Citing the source doesn't make it reliable, it makes it legal for saying where it got its information. However the site where the information originally derives from may be just as unreliable.
You clearly are not religious, that was a VERY offensive comment to people who believe strongly in the word of God and the word of the bible - the word that clearly explains the Garden of Eden and its existence. Much of what dedicated Christians do and say is performed based on the bible and their beliefs. Adam and Eve's story is known by many people. The bible provides a second "theory" to the scientific theory on how the world was created. And I'm sorry but it is extremely arrogant and close-minded to entirely dismiss the bible as illogical and untrue when, frankly, you have no proof that it is as such and are only succeeding in offending those who swear by the bible. Coming from a teacher this is very disappointing. Feel free to have your opinions on the bible but to so rudely suggest that any proof from it provides no foundation to an argument is very irresponsible coming from someone who is looked up to as a responsible adult.
You have no proof that it IS true, so that is a moot point.
And my opinions on religion have aboslutely zero influence on my teaching. Separation of church and state, you know?
And until you can prove that the teachings of the bible DEFINITELY did not happen and DEFINITELY are untrue, you cannot rightfully say that what is written in the bible cannot be used as sound evidence in an argument.
And I agree that your opinions on religion have no influence on your teaching. What I said, however, is the way that you so blatantly disregard and throw away the teachings of the bible - which, as such, you have not proven to be untrue - as irrelevant to arguments is not the way that a responsible adult - that is, a teacher like yourself - should be speaking when all that I've been taught about teachers says that they are entitled to their opinions but should not be biased towards others. I was aware that teachers should support all students regardless of their skill, their age, their skin colour, or their views. I didn't realise that I was so blatantly wrong.
You can't prove they ARE true, therefor, the bible is unsound evidence.
Can't exactly prove that the whole "Big Bang" theory is true either, now can you?
Just let people believe what they believe. We really don't know how we came unto earth, different people believe in different things.
Yeah. In the meantime, we don't all have to be disrespectful bogans.
I do, but it's not, or should not, be useable in any argument based on it's unreliability.
OK, then on that basis neither can blaise's, because just as I can't prove the bible's eligibility, she can't prove its ineligibility.
No, I can't prove it. Nor can that "teacher" in saying that the Garden of Eden never existed. It may well have. Names change, it could be ANY natural garden on this planet. Their proof is no more sound
That was exactly my point...
And why on earth is the word teacher in quotation marks??
Because you should be able to learn from teachers. Your students are only learning that they will only be accepted and can only accept those of the same. They aren't learning to form their own opinions. Until you become a good teacher, I'm not going to call you a teacher. I'm going to call you by what your job title is.
And what, exactly, is my job title, if not a teacher??
Your job title is a "teacher", not a teacher. A teacher is someone whom students can learn well off. You are teaching students not to form their own opinions but nstead to comply with those of the one "teaching" them. And no teacher should do that. Its like saying anyone who has a license is a good driver. You might have your licence but if you can't drive propery it doesn't make you a good driver
This has gotten really really skinny and just letters.
...No, some opinions actually are just wrong. People are not entitled to think that all Jewish people should be killed, or that all fetuses with Down's syndrome should be aborted, or that all girls should have their clitorises chopped off when they turn 10. Some opinions are just NOT OK. Those people absolutely do not "deserve to be supported in whatever [they] choose to take on the matter."
I do not follow your logic.
Then I have every right to say that your opinion is wrong.
It is wrong because EVERYBODY deserves to be supported in whatever they choose to take on the matter.
You are being a hypocrite. Its ok for people to hate homophobics because THEIR opinion is not ok (to you) but its ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIC for people to hate homosexuals in the belief that THEIR opinion is not ok.
If I am not allowed to hate homosexuals then you have no right to hate homophobics. After all, they just have a different opinion.
People are ENTITLED to think whatever they want. As to whether that is strictly the right, wrong, good or bad thing is completely different.
So you honestly think that Hitler had a right to commit a massive genocide because that was his honest opinion??
I believe that Hitler had the right to start a war if he had sound reasons for doing so. And no, I don't think that what he did was right. I don't think that anyone has the right to kill. But he was entitled to his opinion no matter how sick and twisted it was. Whether or not he acts on it is, again, his choice, and although I don't believe that it was the right thing to do - nor do I think that we should have free reign to act on such horrid opinions - he was just as ENTITLED to it as the rest of us are entitled to what we choose to think and believe.
blaise, you are a teacher. Its wrong to tell people that opinions can be wrong if they're just another take on a subject. But it is worse to be told that your take on something is wrong by a TEACHER, teachers are supposed to be unbiased, I guess you would be one of those who has favourites in class and isn't liked by any student who isn't one of those.
It is also wrong to tell someone that they don't deserve support or that they aren't entitled to their opinion.
I pity the world if there are more people like you out there. Its those comments that drive people to do things, to feel worthless, and to think a teacher is someone who causes that hurt.
My students are smart enough to know that there is a difference between right and wrong. For instance, they are not entitled to think that if they participate in class but do no homework, they deserve an A. That would be an incorrect opinion. It's not hurtful, it's the truth.
As a teacher, I have a responsibility to make sure that each of my students is treated fairly as a human being. That means that racism, sexism, and yes, homophobia, will NEVER EVER be tolerated in my classroom. I refuse to promote hatred.
And yet that is unfair treatment to those who genuinely believe that being homosexual is wrong.
You are being hypocritical. You are ensuring that those who support racial, gender and marriage equality are treated fairly as human beings.
But those who do not believe in gay marriage are also human beings and also deserve to be treated as such. Telling students that they will not be treated fairly for having a different opinion to you is not right.
Allowing children (and/or young adults) to have their own opinions is what should be promoted. Disallowing any opinion differing from yours is squashing student's abilities to form their own opinions and it is fitting them into a box where the only opinions available to them are the ones that YOU approve of. Being a teacher doesn't mean that your way is the right way, and no more so does it mean that you are the only one with right opinions. Teaching students to have the opinions that you think are right is not teaching them to take evidence and form their own views on the subject based on what they can take from the evidence handed to you.
Parents pay for their children to go to school and learn from you. But if they are not being taught that they are allowed their own opinions, if they are being told that they must think the same thing as the teacher, then it is a large waste of their money, and the parents should move their children to a school where they can have their own opinions and think what they will without the risk of being treated unfairly in the classroom because their teacher disagrees.
Homophobia isn't hatred, last time I checked. And yes, there are homophobes who DO hate it. But for many people, it is just a disagreement with the idea of two men or two women being together in a relationship. Not hatred at all - thinking something is wrong has never before been considered "hatred".
Where you think you are successfully refraining from promoting hatred, what you are actually doing is promoting the idea that children do not have the right to form their own opinions and must instead have those of their teacher. And I blatantly disagree with that method. Where is the sense of freedom in your classroom?
I honestly have nothing more to say, since you think it's ok to allow children to believe that some people are born inherently better or more acceptable than others. That concept is so completely wrong that I don't think I can help you.
I will once again state that I will always, ALWAYS promote equality and equitability, and will never let anyone, student or otherwise, think that it's ok to think that one group of people is better than another.
And when did I say that I thought one group was better than another? I said that I didn't think homosexuality was natural or right. I didn't say that I thought any less of the people for their personalities. I said that I didn't find the concept to be right.
I never said that I though it was ok to allow children to believe that some people are born better than others, would you like to point out where I said that? I said that I didn't think it was right to promote equality and yet expect all students to have the same beliefs as you and treat them equally as long as they did agree with homosexuality. It is their choice what they believe in and with you dictating how they are treated depending on what they do choose to believe in is not giving them the freedom that they deserve.
Like i have previously stated, I think it is right to allow children to believe in what they choose to believe in. Just because they are younger and have less knowledge than you does not make them less human, and with being human comes the right to have and form personal opinions. And THAT is what I think is right. Is it ok to promote to children that they have to hate something? No. But no more so is it ok to promote to children that they have to love something. It is their choice and they deserve to be given the freedom that they are rightfully entitled to.
And ensuring that a classroom is a place where opinions against homosexuality will be stamped on, put down and hated, is not allowing the children who belong in that classroom to make up their own mind about it.
What is RIGHT is to give them the facts - for, AND against - and allow them to choose whether or not they agree or disagree with it. When you haven't done that, and when you don't know their stance, how fair is it on INNOCENT children to treat those who disagree as monsters? As people who have wrong opinions? As people who don't care for equality? Thats not true. NONE of that is true. Just because they have taken the evidence and formed a view on it does NOT make them monsters who have wrong opinions and don't care for equality.
You seem to support equality. So why won't you let those with opinions AGAINST your own be treated equally to those who have opinions the SAME as yours? if you are going to support equality, you have to support EVERYONE. Not just those whose opinions you agree with.
Oh, and do you know how it feels to be told that your opinion is unacceptable? Geez, and I thought most teachers were meant to be nice. Lord help the students of your school.
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You clearly don't understand a word that I've said in a single post of mine, so I'm done. Everything you just posted about, I've already addressed. I feel no need to repeat myself.
P.S. Teachers were not "meant to be nice." I don't give a damn whether my kids like me, as long as they like Spanish and learn a lot. As any good teacher will tell you, we're not there to make friends (although that's a nice bonus). We're there to do everything we need to do to make our students successful. If forcing success upon them means some will hate me, then so be it. The teachers who will do anything just to be liked are generally some of the most ineffective.
Ok, whatever you like to believe. Just for the record, students very rarely learn anything from someone they hate. Never said you had to do anything to be liked. I just assumed that teachers, who are supposed to be trusted adults, didn't have to be decent people
Sir/madam, there is a difference between thinking something is wrong, and actually calling someone out on it. The latter is considered hate, and as said, will not be tolerated in Blaise's classroom.
If someone thinks badly about another person, I believe the phrase "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all." applies quite well here.
We all have our opinions, but demoting an entire group of people isn't appropriate for school anyways, so she has a perfectly acceptable reason not to allow such opinions in her class.
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Fair enough. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is she doesn't allow hate in her class.
How do you think the people with those opinions feels when they get treated poorly for having them, huh?
If they didn't broadcast such opinions, they wouldn't get treated poorly. Problem solved.
It's just like racism or sexism. If people with such opinions keep it to themselves, BAM! no ones knows and no one gets hurt.
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OK, so its ok for those broadcasting opinions that you don't like to be treated unfairly, but its a crime for homophobes to treat gays like that?
Oh my lord. How is it that not expressing an opinion being unfair? Essentially, if you don't hate in a comment, you wont be hated.
Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, correct?
We're saying that it is incorrect to hate.
If you say being gay is a choice, awesome, that's your opinion. If you say it like, "Oh, well, I don't believe that being gay is natural. I think it's against the Bible. Just my opinion, as you have yours, and I'm just sharing it. That's all." <---That is perfectly okay. [If you want a better answer, go here: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/chick-fil-gay-marriage-201108120--finance.html Read what he says about gay marriage.]
Now, if you say something like, "God, gays are so fucking disgusting, I hate them all, they're going to burn in Hell because they're against the Bible." Well, that is not okay. That is not an okay opinion to express.
Again, homophobia is just like racism or sexism. You may not like black people, or women, or men, but you do not have to act on the thought. Just because a lot of people think homophobia is wrong, and being gay is right and amazing and everything, it does not stop you from saying your opinion or ideas in a nice, polite manner.
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You ask how not being able to give an opinion is unfair? Because everybody asks gays and supports gays to give theirs. When it comes to someone who's against that, I don't see how it is suddenly ok to ask them to keep it inside of them. Yeah, it might offend gay people. Ever consider that THEIR opinion offends homophobes?
Why the hell should a gay person's opinion offend you?! If you say something polite, they wouldn't be shunning homophobes in the first place! Do you not understand? Is that it? Because I feel as thought I'm making this pretty clear to you.
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But I never said I hated them! I said I disagreed with the concept of it. I never swore at them, I never said hateful comments, and the reality is, a large amount of homophobes hate with all their might but they are NOT rude enough to say those things to gay's faces OR behind their backs. Their opinions offend me because I find them wrong, OK? And I have every right to because I am entitled to my opinion too. I don't see how THEY are entitled to treat me and others like me as though we are all disgustingly horrible people who don't care two hoots for people's feelings. Because we DO. And if you don't think that they deserve to be hated because of what they believe in, then by that basis, NEITHER DO HOMOPHOBES. If gay people hate homophobes because the latter disagree with their opinion, then they shouldn't go getting all high and mighty when the same happens to them. They can't say that they don't want that treatment if they don't have the decency to refrain from giving it themselves.
An opinion that is different to yours will ALWAYS seem wrong - it will ALWAYS seem as though it is "not OK". Because if they seemed right - if they seemed "OK" - then they would, also, be your opinion.
But we all have reasoning behind our views. You have it behind yours and, whether you choose to think that it has strong foundations or not, so do I.
And until such time as you can knock down and disintigrate every single piece of proof I have to back up my opinion in such a way that I simply cannot conjure up more proof or repair what you have taken down, you cannot say that my opinion, nor the same opinion of others, is undeserving of support.
That is incorrect. For example, I am strongly pro-choice, but I also understand where the pro-lifers are coming from. Their opinion, while not my own, is logical.
Homophobes and white supremacists are just being hateful. That's it. Their opinions are flat out unacceptable.
EDIT: Why do you keep making multiple comments instead of posting it all in one comment?
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You do not have to understand where every single person's opinion comes from. I am not being hateful. I just disagree. You have a very one-minded idea on what being homophobic is. Their opinions are flat-out unnacceptable - to you. But I never realised that homophobics were aliens, as opposed to humans. If they were humans they would have every right to think what they will. But clearly they DON'T, so they must be aliens.
I make multiple comments because I add things later on. Sorry for not fitting into what you think is right. Once again, you are not the only person in this world who is right, so before you go any further, I would suggest getting off your high horse.
Use. The. Fucking. Edit. Button.
CALM YOUR FARM. I WAS UNAWARE THAT IT WAS A RULE THAT THE EDIT BUTTON ALWAYS HAD TO BE USED.
Is it even a rule that you HAVE to use it? Til you can prove that it is i will make my points in whichever way I choose, I shouldn't have to comply to whatever YOU want.
It's irritating to have to read mutilple comments, rather than it all fitting into once nice comment. I was calm, fucking moron. So how about YOU calm the fuck down.
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hahaha swearing and using dot points is being calm? on what planet? Don't swear, it only shows how pathetic you are.
Its also irritating to have to do a lot of things in this world. It doesn't mean that people should have to change to accommodate the things YOU want. You are irritating. I'm not telling you to go die, though, am I?
You used all caps for the love of god. Because, you know, that's totally calm and everything.
Again, no one said you HAD to use the edit button. It was Chibiterasu's opinion. They aren't forcing you to do anything, now are they?
I never said I was calm. I said they should be because it was such a small issue. "USE THE ******** EDIT BUTTON." Because thats a great way to get across an opinion, right?
I suppose you have some legitimate reason, but really it would make sense to be more afraid of the people who did this to you rather than gays/lesbians as a whole. I mean, I got bullied by this six foot tall Arabic guy at my school. Doesn't mean I fear all tall guys or Arabs, just him.
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I feel your pain, OP. You're actually AFRAID of homosexuals, you don't seem to hate them. Hopefully you can work on your fear somehow. <:3
Do you people not see the name she put it under? I'm sorry to all the good gays. Meaning she can't help but be afraid of them because of what a few did to her. She said she hates being afraid. Is that not good enough for you? Because honestly, all I ever read in these comments are about how everyone should be gay-loving and perfect, and if you're not, you get cyber bullying from everyone in the comments. She never, EVER said she walks around and tells people she hates homosexuals, she said she doesn't want to be afraid, so doesn't that mean she's trying to get over it? If she hates being afraid, she's not going around and screaming about anti-gay things. Stop and read it again before you post.
And, also, you have to actually be molested before you can say she should just "get over it." You don't know the pain and fear she goes through.
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FOR THE LAST TIME, NO ONE IS BEING CYBERBULLIED. They are giving constructive critisism. Yes, a few of the comments are a bit harsh, but it doesn't mean they set out to give the OP a beating. They wanted to give her advice on how to deal with it. And if the OP really wants to post a secret, they should be ready for comments like these. Not everybody is going to agree with tham, but they should know that.
I was RAPED, and I don't fear ALL men. Know why? I GOT OVER IT.
Wow. I didn't know you were raped O.o
Yup. Not a good thing to go through.
I was molested for over a year as a child. It's not exactly an easy thing to get over. Maybe she's more afraid then others. Maybe she's young.
I "got over" it, but that doesn't mean that I don't fear it a bit when I meet older men.
I do still fear, but it sounds as if OP is just hiding behind the "OMG I WAS MOLESTED" rather than making any attempt to get over it. That could very well be due to the character limit though.
I think it's a bit of her just plain having that fear. Maybe she's shy, so it makes it worse. And she could be like 12, making it harder because she hasn't had time to mature and learn from it. She said she doesn't want to be afraid. She's trying somewhat.
I know the feeling, I just feel really uncomfortable around "popular" girls or guys because I was bullied for years because of the ones in my old school. I naturally feel like hating them. But I try not to show it, because none of these popular kids I've met since have hurt me. I am as friendly as I can around them, even they don't deserve to be treated badly by anyone just because I was emotionally tortured by couple of jackasses years ago. Nobody deserves that.
So even if you don't feel comfortable, please don't go walking around telling people how much you hate all homosexuals, most of them have never done any harm.
but why CAN'T you hate them? i mean, homosexuals hate homophobics, its the way it goes. i am scared of all spiders, yeah some of them are harmless, does it make me like them any more? nup. and no, i'm not comparing homosexuals to spiders, i'm just saying that we are entitled to dislike that particular stance if we so wish, and are just as entitled to voice our opinions, without being hated for it
Homosexuals hate homophobics (which are actually heterosexists), because they make shit out of us, and try to deny us our rights. We give them NO reason to hate us.
And yet I can think of some to point out why I don't believe in homosexuality.
Its unnatural, if it were meant to be then god would have made it that way from the start.
If they think its ok to hate us for having our opinions then its saying that its ok for us to hate them. So yes, there's a reason, if you don't want hate then don't give it.
And if you want us to believe that not all homosexuals are the same, then believe it about us. We aren't all politicians who refuse to allow gay marriage. Just because we disagree, we aren't all as cruel as them.
Give what you want to get. If you give us hate for our opinion, don't expect us to be all happy and loving about your choices. If you want us to believe that you aren't all the same, don't act as though we all are.
That's YOUR BELIEF. YOUR BELIEF is that "GOD" made the fucking world. Other people believe differently. So "it's wrong" shouldn't even fucking fly as an excuse anymore. Stop fucking eating beef then NOW, because according to Hindu's, it's WRONG. See? If you think ti's right for all gay couples not of your religion to have to follow YOUR RELIGIONS LAWS, you should have to follow another's without complaint.
Oh, right, you don't want to follow the belief of a religion you don't follow. JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
Who said I was religious? Using the bible as my proof doesn't make me religious.
What makes you think that swearing is going to improve your points? Its foul.
Honestly my first thought was, "At least the OP has a reason".
But seriously you should find a way to get over it. I get that it was a traumatic event and all that but you shouldn't blame the whole community just because a few morons hurt you. Just be cautious, but dont carry around this fear because it can evolve into hate.
Chibiterasu was a bit too harsh, but they were right. Not all lesbians are out to molest and rape any girl they see. Most are just regular people.
-Edit: and at least OP put their name as an apology
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Agreed. Thank's for saving me from typing something like that out. :) I'm being lazy today.
Just think for a minute will you? A minuscule number of homosexuals would do that, so being a homophobe is unjustified and it's extremely unlikely that anybody who is a homophobe has had that experience.
Being a homophobe isn't unjustified.
Think of it like this. There is a subject, there are two stances: for, and against. Homosexuals are for, homophobes against. Its another opinion, its not fair to say its unjustified.
Some people just find the concept of two girls being a couple or two boys being a couple to be unnatural. Thats justification for being against it.
I think you need to think for a minute. You're getting upset at homophobes for being against one stance. And yet you are against the other.
And you're tolerant of intolerant t**ts
Actually, no you aren't justified. OH CRAP A BLACK KID BEAT ME UP AND MADE FUN OF ME IN SCHOOL EVERY DAY FOR FIVE YEARS! THAT MEANS I CAN BE A RACIST BECAUSE OF ONE PERSON OUT OF MANY! See how fricking stupid it sounds?
Edit: that's not just "another circumstance" I really was bullied/beaten for five years by a black kid in school.
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She never, ever said she was mean to homosexuals. She said she was afraid of them. Three of them hurt her, and you can't help but be afraid of all of them. She never said," I HATE HOMOSEXUALS BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY DID." Don't make judgments.
Its the exact same concept. Treating many badly, fearing them, because of the few. And yes, she damn well can help it. What if it had been straight girls? She'd fear all straights then? Yeah, don't think so.
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yeah, she may well. if men did it to her, she would fear them, rightly so. if girls did it to her, she would fear girls, and rightly so. She's allowed to fear what she fears, don't be so harsh about it.
No, it's not "rightly so" you dumbass. It's NOT right to judge an ENTIRE group of people on the few.
But since you really seem to think so, I guess that means I get to be racist. :D
Well thats a bit rude, calling me a dumbass for thinking something different to you.
As long as she isn't rude to people, isn't mean to them, doesn't bully them, then she has every right to be scared of them. They have proved to her what people like them are capable of. Just because most people don't do it, doesn't mean that it hasn't been shown that they have the ABILITY to. when someone does that to you, you wouldn't EVER blindly trust ANYONE like them ever again. You shouldn't be expected to. Thats not fair.
And don't call me a dumbass.
"people like them" Excuse me, dumbass, but EVERYONE is capable of such a thing. And yes, you SHOULD be expected to.
What have I done to you other than disagree with your opinion that gives you the right to call me a dumbass?
You are being intolerant of this poor girl's reaction to the experience she had. I don't know if it happened to you. If it did then I'm sorry but we aren't all like you and just because you can get over things quick as that and care for everyone and trust everyone blindly despite what you went through, doesn't mean we all can, so yes, you expect people to, but we aren't all as amazing and uncaring as you.
I can understand it from your point of view, if you will understand it from mine. Not all homosexuals are like that, so please don't hate all of us for something some did. The rest of us don't deserve it.
If you don't want to be called a disgusting bigot, don't say shit like "Homosexuals are disgusting and going to Hell."
Then we wouldn't think that.
The OP never said they said that... they're just trying to get people to see the situation from the other side.
A lot of homophobes say crap like that. I didn't say OP said that stuff, but that's the only reason people would (or should) say bad stuff about homophobes.
Otherwise, I'm not sure why someone would be called a "disgusting bigot" for being homophobic and not saying hateful things.
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"The other side" is generally bigotted a-hole religious nuts, not one's who "fear".
Exactly. I'm not even sure why it's called "homophobia" if you don't actually fear something. It's kind of absurd.
Here, have some Matrix, it's good for brain:
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Could it, perhaps, be by poking yourself with a sewing needle?
Sorry, just guessing.
I have a feeling that your boyfriend isn't a therapist, or psychologist, or whatever. He probably has no idea what you're going through. ANY form of self-harm counts.
Get you ass to a therapist.
He probably doesn't understand what you're going through, ignore him. Self harming even more isn't going to make anything better. You need to stop for the health of you and all of your family.
What's with the last line though?
Any way that you hurt yourself, be it scratching, burning, punching, cutting, is self-harm. If it hurts, it's harm. Please, please try to stop, hurting yourself over others isn't worth it.
Why is it that almost every person who submits secrets thinks that they are the centre of everyone's universe? I love my best friends, would I sneak out of home at night to see them? Nup. Would I risk serious punishment? Nup. Because I have a little thing in my head called "sense" that stops me from breaking my parents rules - because I know that my best friends aren't the ONLY people in this world.
OK? You aren't the centre of everyone's lives and you shouldn't expect to be treated as though you are.
Or maybe, just maybe, she doesn't want to fucking get in trouble with her parents?
Are you two in the same school? If you are, wouldn't you see them then?
You sure that's what happened? I'm pretty sure if her parents said "You're never to see her again, or else you'll [insert unreasonable punishment]" that she'd question seeing you ever again.
OP, let's be reasonable. Your friend may have been blackmailed by her parents, or threatened. If your parents told you that you couldn't see your friend or otherwise they'll take away something important to you, would you do it? Yes, you would.
Anyway, these are her parents. She has to live with them. These people raised her. She might feel if she disobeys them she'll ruin her relationship.
This is not an easy situation to judge OP. Maybe there's something her parents are threatening her with, that she finds important, so she wouldn't hang out with you?
I don't think it's easy for her. Parents kind of have this tendency to blackmail their kids.
Though, I can't seem to find a good enough reason to defend her not contacting you in any way to explain...
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Your passive-aggressiveness has commanded my to slap you, OP.
Maybe her parents have made threats against her not to talk to you because of your sexuality. Or maybe her parents disliked you already to the extent that this was the last straw.
It's sh*tty, but if my parents told me not to talk to my best friend for any reason, else they'd hit me, take away what remains of my Uni fund from me, or forbid me to see any of my other friends and boyfriend, I'd jack that b*tch. I love her and all, but I need money, other friends, and bones intact.
Just sayin', don't get all petty and whiny on here, sket.
Youre an ass im not the OP but I would slap you right across the face if i had the chance
Quick English lesson: You're an ass; I'm not the OP, but I would slap you right across the face if I had the chance.
^ Please note the grammar changes.
Anyway, I'm not an ass. I'm trying to help OP to accept that perhaps there are deeper issues at play, and that her best friend may have no choice in the matter.
So her joking about slapping op is unacceptable, but it is just fine when you threaten to slap her? You have very strange logic.
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That is exactly what I was going to say.
Here's the difference between you and IrishCyanide: They gave a two paragraph explanation as to why they disagree with the OP, including an opinion, a personal experience, and thought process behind their opinion.
You, on the other hand, have resorted to petty threats with exactly zero explanation, showcasing your utter stupidity. Do try again.
Sorry, I feel pretty much obliged to say something here. Seeing as her friend has given her no explanation whatsoever, not even through other friends, it has obviously hurt the OP, especially considering the fact that it's over a very sensitive subject (for the majority at least).
Now I understand your arguments for why her friend hasn't contacted her, and on those notes, I agree that they could explain it. What I don't agree with, however, is your wanting to slap the OP and call them a sket. Honestly I think it's very childish. If OP is clearly upset by it, how is offending them going to do any good?
Yes, there may be deeper issues at play, but that doesn't give you a right to use names or threaten to hurt them
I like to be childish. It lets me hit immature people who refuse to take into consideration two points of view. And slapping people is always fun. Plus, 'sket' isn't a name, nor is it offensive, unless OP is... scratch that - since OP is clearly oversensitive and a purveyor of the melodramatics, I guess she would have been offended. Her own fault.
Well according to you, everyone is childish. Sket can be offensive, when you consider the way in which you say it. Over the internet, that can be read in any way, and if you are sensitive, you are most likely to see it as offensive. Sket can also be a name, it is where I'm from. Now, you whine about people who refuse to take into consideration two points of view, yet you are doing just that. Do you know what it's like to be gay? If you don't, then don't have a go at OP for feeling upset. That is most likely a big cause of their sensitivity, especially seeing as something she can't control has been why her friend is no longer speaking to her.
Hi, I'm a girl who enjoys sexy-time with other girls. For frick's sake, I'd be keeping my mouth shut a little more if I hadn't any clue what it's like to be gay. It's just like being straight, only with a vag in your mouth more often than a dick. Excuse the vulgar language; spent too many consecutive days in my very common town haha.
It's kind of really REALLY offensive to say over-sensitivity is related to homosexuality. It's not. I'm pretty much the toughest girl I know emotions-wise, so no, there is absolutely no correlation between sexuality and weakness. That's on a par with homophobia.
Fair enough, you do know. meh, vulgar language isn't a problem, unless it's directed at someone really.
I don't see how it's offensive? I'm not saying its linked to over-sensitivity, I'm saying that it can be a 'sore spot' for some people, and when it becomes a supposable 'reason' for someone else's actions then it can make it worse, not saying it always does, but it can. Who says that emotions are weak? I didn't mean it to be on par with homophobia, let me make that very clear. I wasn't trying to imply sexuality was linked to emotions, I was trying to say that it can be a bit tricky for some people. Sorry for the confusion, but I would never, in my life, intend to be homophobic.
That's alright then - I do have a habit of getting easily offended by people assuming I must want to go into a corner and cry over everything because of various reasons (oddly enough, sexuality never came up as a reason, so at least I can say it still hasn't haha) :')
Sorry if I was a little... angry-sounding. I was, but I feel kind of guilty now since it was mainly a huge miscommunication/misunderstanding thing :')
Meh, honestly, i pretty much share that, though unfortunately, i get to add sexuality to that list (after a few arguments over it everyone seems to expect me to cry, so weird).
It's okay, I should have been been clearer, haha oh well, as long as that's all cleared up now :)
Virtual hug! You need one! This is all up to you, no-one can tell you what to do here. All I'll do is offer up experience for you. Unless YOU are comfortable in your own sexuality, it's not the best idea to say you are, because that can put a LOT of pressure on you. However, it may be a good idea to tell someone that you're unsure, it can be a huge help.
When you know, then it's all your call, up to you what you do, ask anyone and they can give you advice, but it's best to only do things you are comfortable with.
Now, onto the fear of dying alone, how old are you? Because, if you're under 18, then there's probably little need to worry, the right person is out there, it may sound cheesy, but I firmly believe it is true. I'm guessing from your post that you are under 18, so yeah, chances are, you either; just haven't met anyone to fall in love with yet (NOT a bad thing!) or that you just haven't noticed when people look at you, which is a very probable reason you feel this way.
Now, this caught me too, whatever lead you to believe that you aren't good enough for anyone? Wherever you heard it, it's a lie! Don't ever believe otherwise. You are beautiful. Don't let anyone fool you any other way.
Keep your chin up, it'll clear up for you, I promise.